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Posted: 19 October 2008 04:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]  
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My Brother has Written a Few Songs & i Have Written About 19 Songs my Brother went to a Writters Convention & they told him & i am quting my my Brother told me is as long as you write the Song & have Signed the song at the Bottom that is As Good as a copyright Like my songs I Wrote all i am doing is preforming them in my Church & i am making a CD of All my Songs to give to family for Christmas cool smile

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Posted: 17 December 2008 03:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]  
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That is true worship, but if it is challenged in court you might have a tough time proving you wrote those lyrics before someone else.  Suppose the other “writer” had the same lyrics with his signature at the bottom with an earlier date.  What then?  The best way to protect yourself is to 1) register your work with the library of congress or 2) record a cd of several original songs and register the entire body of work.

Most SG writers aren’t going to go far in court because the cost outweighs the return.  Not many SG writers have a song that makes them more than $1000 over the life of the song.  Most songs make much, much less.

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Posted: 16 February 2009 08:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]  
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There is good information, and some, not so good information posted above.
Here is what I have learned about copyright laws over the last 25 years of writing. 

1.  A poor man’s copyright is not worth the price of the stamp you put on it
    to mail it to yourself.  It has been proven, in court, not to hold up as legal
    proof of ownership.  Sending it REGISTERED MAIL doesn’t make it legal
    proof either.

2.  Registering a COLLECTION of songs with the U.S. copyright office is also worthless.
    The only thing that you are registering is the Collection itself, not the individual
    song titles.  Think about it for a moment.  I can register a Collection of the following
    songs: 
              1.  Happy Birthday To You
              2.  The Lighthouse
              3.  Three Blind Mice
              4.  Midnight Train To Georgia
              5.  We Shall Behold Him

    If I register this collection of songs, I can call it “Random Songs I Put Together”.
    The only thing that I have protected is this TITLE of this collection.  I would now
    own the right to place those five songs together in a printed or recorded form.
    If anyone else wanted to put those same five titles together, then they would
    have to have my legal permission to do so. 
 
    Registering a Collection of songs is best used by print publishers and record companies.
    For instance, when a new Hymnal is published, the publishing company will register that
    collection of titles under one title, which is the name of the Hymnal.  The same holds true for
    sound recordings.  A record company will register the song titles of an artist project, by the
    project title.  This prevents someone else from duplicating the exact collection. 
   
   
    Just because I register this COLLECTION, it does not mean that I have any proof
    or legal ownership of the INDIVIDUAL songs in that collection.  Even if you did write every song
    in your collection, registering the Collection will not be PROOF that you wrote the Individual songs in
    the collection.

I’ve never met a beginning writer yet that wasn’t looking for a short cut around the system.
But doing it right, is still the best way to do it.  Here are the facts.

1.  Your song has legal Copyright protection from the moment of it’s creation.
2.  You should always include your copyright information on any COPY you make of the song, in
    print or recorded form.  That is legal Copyright notification.
3.  If your songs are being released into the market place for publication or recording, then they should
    be registered with your performing rights organization, (ie)  BMI, ASCAP, or SESAC.
4.  Since registration is so expensive with the Library of Congress Copyright Office, most publishing
    companies don’t register an individual song, until it has been recorded by a label artist, or used in
    a major print publication.

I hope this information helps.

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Posted: 17 February 2009 10:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]  
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This is excellent and info on some new points that I’ve not heard before.  Thanks for posting!

[ Edited: 18 February 2009 03:32 PM by srwjones]
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Posted: 18 February 2009 11:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]  
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Thanks Daryl…finally an easy to understand explanation.
PS tell the family we said HI

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Posted: 16 May 2009 03:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]  
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Yes indeed! Mr Daryl is truly well informed on this subject. Thank you for your insight.
I also thank the rest of you who have responded, everyone, thank you.

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