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What Long-time group has best held on to their former glory?
Posted: 19 November 2008 02:59 PM   [ Ignore ]
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There are many groups whose name has been around almost since southern gospel has existed. Many of those names still belong to touring groups but generally none of these groups has a founding member, and even some don’t have a long-term member still with them.

The Blackwood Brothers of today don’t have James, RW or even Cecil. They have Jimmy, who some considered a shadow of his father.

The Stamps of today have Ed Enoch and a bunch of young fellas that nobody has ever heard of. As far as I can tell this new group hasn’t produced any albums and hardly tours at all. JD Sumner is gone, and with him went the Stamps, it seems.

The Melody Boys are still truckin’ along, but Gerald Williams can’t seem to keep the same four men together for longer than two years tops.

The Florida Boys come closest to holding on to their glory the longest, but when Les, Glen and Darrell retired for good, a completely new group took over the name, but this new group consisted of people whose names were never connected with the FB’s before. It was almost the same as if Andrew Ishee, Squire Parsons, Jay Parrack, Mark Trammell and Chris West got together and started calling themselves the Statesmen.

The Palmetto State Quartet, the Kingsmen, the Dixie Echoes and the Inspirations probably come the closest, and I’m kinda stretching even here because as long-lived as they are, the DE’s and the Insp’s haven’t been around anywhere near as long as the other groups I’ve mentioned.

That being said:

The PSQ is still a name people talk about, and has managed to successfully reinvent itself several times, and is to my mind easily the oldest group still thought of as a success. Somehow they managed not to get identified as One Man and his Backups like some other groups have, but it can be argued that they are still not what they used to be.

The Kingsmen still get people to come see their shows and still produce albums that people buy, and still have their long-term bass singer with them, but many people feel that the current group is a shadow of its former self and without Jim Hamill can never truly be the Kingsmen.

The Dixie Echoes still have a healthy following, and their fans love what the current group is doing, but one has to admit that this group will probably never achieve the heights of popularity they had while Dale Shelnut was still alive.

The Inspirations are an anomaly. For longer than almost any other group can claim, they hung on to many of their founding members. Even Jack Laws stuck around long after “retiring” and Archie Watkins is probably the longest-lasting tenor with one group in SG history. They even still has the original founder. I gotta say, though, the Inspirations might as well change their name to the Institutions because part of their popularity stems from how they never change despite the ever-changing face of gospel music.

There are some younger groups, such as the GVB and Gold City, who still pack ‘em in, but compared to the groups I’ve already mentioned, these people are children.

Are there any I’ve missed. I admit I’m hardly the expert here.

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Posted: 19 November 2008 05:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I can think of one right off and that’s The Weatherfords. Although they are in a different type of group now, they are still out there and Mrs. Lily Fern has been hitting some pretty notes for a long time. I don’t think she was in the original group but she deserves mention here I think.

And then there is Mrs. Eva Mae who has kept going long after most all of her group has gone on.

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Posted: 20 November 2008 11:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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What about the couriers?

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Posted: 20 November 2008 12:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I should qualify my last post.  Dave, Duane and Neil, the original Couriers.

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Posted: 21 November 2008 05:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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How about Naomi Sego Reader??? She has bravely and with much dignity kept her group on the road after the loss of 2 husbands and one of her son’s who traveled with her and was her drummer for many years. The road has not always been easy for her but, I (as a close friend) have never heard her once grumble or complain. She has always given God all the Glory. There have been many wonderful people who have come and gone via this group over the years…some still in the GM industry today (such as Eddie Crook to name just one) and some has since passed away. Although, the group had a name change a few years ago and is now known as “Naomi and the Segos”. the original group known as the “Sego Brothers and Naomi” had the privilege of having the first million seller in Gospel Music (SGM)...“Sorry I Never Knew You”. She is still going strong after 50 years in full-time service to the Lord through this wonderful music. She is a lady of great faith, strength and integrity. Her heart’s desire is and always has been 2 fold: 1) to spread the gospel in song and see souls come to experience the saving power of the Lord Jesus Christ and 2) is at the end of each day her prayer is “Lord, Let Me Leave A Song”. The Lord has truly blessed her down through the years and she in turned has blessed and touched so very many of our lives with her music. She truly is a Legend and has paved the way for many other women in the GM industry today. What a LADY!!!!!

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Posted: 21 November 2008 01:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Dave, Duane and Neil (the original Couriers) began singing together in The Couriers in 1957, and then went full-time the next year in 1958. The three men still do about 100 dates a year together and have essentially the same dynamic sound and inspiring presentation that they did in the 70’s, when they were winning all of the Dove Awards, which were then the major awards of the Industry.

Hard to beat.

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Posted: 21 November 2008 02:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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As far as I can tell this new group hasn’t produced any albums and hardly tours at all. JD Sumner is gone, and with him went the Stamps, it seems.

King’s Ransom…

I’m not sure if you have looked at the Stamps Quartet’s website lately, but they seem to be busier than most groups out there.  Take a look at their schedule!

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Posted: 21 November 2008 03:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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I’d go with the Dixie Echoes.  The group has been around since 1960 and seem to have become more popular in the past few years.  Their lead singer Randy Shelnut (son of the Dale) has been with the group since 1970 (baritone before being lead) and his son Randy Jr (Scott) has been singing baritone since 1995.

I thought they sounded great the past few times I’ve heard them.  They don’t try to overpower you but have a very smooth sound.

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Posted: 21 November 2008 05:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Hidee,
Of course, my choice is going to be Gerald Williams and The Melody Boys Quartet of Little Rock, AR. Yes, after almost 14 years of no changes they went through about 4 years where they made a change a year. However, they were always a viable, quality Quartet.

Gerald is now blessed to be surrounded by three gentlemen who are tremendous talents and can and do produce that Quality Melody Boys Quartet trademark sound. The new CD is as good or better than any recording they have ever had. The website is currently down because a change in servers was necessary. However, next week make it a point to go and listen, and I think you will agree.

2009 is Gerald’s 60th consecutive year in the professional “Quartet World”. Gerald Williams, Caleb Matheny, Tim Williams, and Steven Hickenbotham are one of the best combinations of TMBQ that has ever graced a stage!

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Posted: 21 November 2008 05:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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SGBaritone - 21 November 2008 02:58 PM

As far as I can tell this new group hasn’t produced any albums and hardly tours at all. JD Sumner is gone, and with him went the Stamps, it seems.

King’s Ransom…

I’m not sure if you have looked at the Stamps Quartet’s website lately, but they seem to be busier than most groups out there.  Take a look at their schedule!

We did several concerts with them this past year, and they were great. They celebrate their 85th anniversary in 2009.

I talked with Ed Enoch’s wife, Brenda, this past week, and she told me that there is a book coming out in January about their 85 year history. I will be sure to get one.

Also, the Dixie Echoes and the Melody Boys are tops, and have been for years, as well as any and all things Gaither.

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Posted: 21 November 2008 08:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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CliffCerce - 21 November 2008 01:08 PM

Dave, Duane and Neil (the original Couriers) began singing together in The Couriers in 1957, and then went full-time the next year in 1958. The three men still do about 100 dates a year together and have essentially the same dynamic sound and inspiring presentation that they did in the 70’s, when they were winning all of the Dove Awards, which were then the major awards of the Industry.

Hard to beat.

yes, yes, yes….. I heard them for the first time last month at the AG campground in Indiana for three days. They are awsume!!! I bought their new book just out… what a testimony of endurence.


they were booked for 235 dates just for this year and they are about 72 years old each. Most of their bookings are in the northern states and canada and down the coast of California, and this is the same three guys for most of that time. 1959 - present time, minus about 9-10- years. They also go overseas on missionary trips overseas.

Mr. Cliff….. I heard a rumor that a very young man came to Penn. way back as a very talented young keybard player…. Don Baldwin’s name comes to mind…. Sound familure???

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Posted: 27 November 2008 11:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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I’ll add The Oak Ridge Boys to the list. Long time members.STILL sound great!

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Posted: 29 November 2008 12:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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(quote)yes, yes, yes….. I heard them for the first time last month at the AG campground in Indiana for three days. They are awsume!!! I bought their new book just out… what a testimony of endurence.

they were booked for 235 dates just for this year and they are about 72 years old each. Most of their bookings are in the northern states and canada and down the coast of California, and this is the same three guys for most of that time. 1959 - present time, minus about 9-10- years. They also go overseas on missionary trips overseas.

Mr. Cliff….. I heard a rumor that a very young man came to Penn. way back as a very talented young keybard player…. Don Baldwin’s name comes to mind…. Sound familure???(quote)

These guys really are amazing that they keep up the travel pace at 73, 72 and 70 years of age, respectively.  While the 235 dates you mentioned is a number from years ago, they still did a lot of singing and traveling this year.  The fact that three men have spent a total of 27 years working together says a lot in this era of half hearted committment.  We’re proud of all of our predecessors including Dave, Duane and Neil.

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Posted: 13 December 2008 09:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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I would have to say the McKameys. Probably followed closely by KPNR.

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Posted: 22 December 2008 11:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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In 1970, Jimmy Blackwood wasn’t as good as James was in 1970. James had a mature voice, Jimmy’s was that of a young 20-something.

But now that Jimmy’s in his late 50s or early 60s, his voice has matured and definitely isn’t a shadow of his father’s anymore (if it was before).

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Daniel J. Mount - 22 December 2008 11:01 AM

In 1970, Jimmy Blackwood wasn’t as good as James was in 1970. James had a mature voice, Jimmy’s was that of a young 20-something.

But now that Jimmy’s in his late 50s or early 60s, his voice has matured and definitely isn’t a shadow of his father’s anymore (if it was before).

I have some 78’s of the Blackwoods when James was pretty young…not the powerhouse then that he became.  I agree, Jimmy was a late bloomer…and I think he’s older than you think…something tells me he’s about 65.

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