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15 Aug 2007
Tammy Faye Messner - The World Lost a Friend
![]() When I was asked to write this, I wasn't exactly sure how I wanted to go about it. From a writer's standpoint, you always try to find a certain slant to write from. The only way I felt I could adequately write this was to just write my thoughts and let you, the reader, read them and make your own decisions as to how you felt about Tammy Faye Messner. In my years of observing Tammy Faye, I've come to truly respect and admire her. Tammy Faye was a friend to all she came in contact with. Even to those who brought her strife, she was their friend. When you look beyond all the glamour and glitz of PTL (and all of its pitfalls) and you look beyond the make-up and giddiness, I think you found someone who was warm and caring. Love her or hate her, she demanded respect.and she deserved it. Reader Comments
Ok last post for this subject(yawn). Jim Banker, oops Bakker paid himself in 1986 2.8 million dollars. At that time he and Tammy Faye owned six luxurymansions, 47 bank accounts. On the PTL program he was raising about 1 million dollars every two days. Then in 1989 he was charged and convicted on 24 counts of fraud and conspiracy for stealing 3.7 million from his flock. Jim admitted to many sexual partners in those days. He paid 265,000 dollars to buy silence of the church secretary whom I will not mention by name. Bakker was sentenced to 45 years in prison but only served five years. Shorly after his release he told an interviewer that he would never preach on television again, well guess what he was Wrong Again! He can be found in front of cameras again in at the Studio City Cafe in Branson, Missouri. Before his death, Jerry Falwell publicly declared Bakker a " sexual deviant, an embezzler and a liar". Falwell also said of the Heritage USA founder "a scab and cancer on the face of Christianity". Yes Tammy Faye got a pass for some reason, not sure why. She also found her way back to television via the Surreal Life,(enough said). She also hosted a local cable show which she talked hollywood and glamour not anything about God. If one looks closely at the set of the New Jim Bakker show, one can see the paintings that once dawned the halls of Heritage USA(tasteless). After watching his new show, I realized he is up to no good again, looking deep down the camera and saying we cant stay on the air without your money. Most disappointing of all is the B gospel singers and preachers that appear on his show.(have you no shame? Yes God has forgiven Jim and Tammy and now Lorrie, his forgiveness is really the only one that matters. But I will say shame on those who support and contribute to his program. F.Y.I. you can go to his web-site and on the homepage, you can make a donation.(arent we smarter than this?)
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Commented by On 08/23/2007
I don't think that anyone ever suggested that Jim and Tammy didn't fall. The point that is being missed here is that God's Grace even applies to Jim and Tammy. In reality, in God's sight, is what Jim and Tammy did any worse than than many of the sins that we all commit everyday. Maybe they are more extreme in mans eyes, but if we get real, sin is still sin and will get you to hell in a heartbeat (meaning your final heartbeat).
So, God's Grace is just as saving and forgiving for the sins that Jim and Tammy made as they are in our lives. If God has forgiven them, just as He has forgiven us, then who are we to say that they cannot continue in Ministry. And.... my I will not accept any shame for singing on the Jim Bakker Show if I get a chance. The shame would be in not taking the opportunity to reach all the people that Jim reaches with the Gospel message.
Commented by On 08/23/2007
Tennessean,
Regardless of what the media reported, regardless of what you think you know, regardless of how bad some want to believe the Bakkers are/were, and in spite of any sin or wrong committed, this article was intended to reflect on the goodness Tammy Faye did bring to the lives of many worldwide. It also provides an opportunity for those who knew and/or loved Tammy Faye to respond with expressions of love and wonderful memories of a lady who positively touched so many hearts and lives. You don't seem to have a hard time at all believing the worst of these people. Is it really THAT inconceivable to you that they actually may have done anything good??? I appreciate the owners of this website for their fairness in allowing both negative and positive perspectives to be posted. But really, if you insist on trashing and bashing, stick with other blogs. Or go start a Bakker bashing thread elsewhere. But to do it here where people are greiving the loss of someone they loved is, in my humble opinion, inconceivably disgusting and innapropriate. Your motives and intentions are made clear by your comments here. God help you. I have nothing else to say to you. ***edited by the adminstration
Commented by On 08/23/2007
Commented by SGN On 08/23/2007
Hey look we agree, a big "Thank You" to SGN for allowing the debate. Next?
Commented by On 08/23/2007
Thank you John for your comments. Please let us grieve for Tammy in peace. What a loving gracious woman. It appears that anyone who ever really knew her loved her. To know her was to love her.
I pray that God will show the doubters more mercy than they show Tammy. Rest in peace, sweet Lady!
Commented by On 08/23/2007
Tennessean,
I wasn't going to comment any more but when you said that the guests that appeared on Jim's show were "B" artists. I have a problem with that. I don't think Paula White is a "B" list preacher, I don't think Kenneth Copeland is either. Do you really feel that Dino is a "B" list guest? If you think that Dottie Rambo, The Mckameys or Mark Lowry are "B" list guests then I daresay you don't think to highly of Southern Gospel music because these are the cream of the crop. I think you have the right to believe anything you want to about Jim Bakker but that has nothing to do with Tammy Faye or her passing. Also, you mentioned that Jim admitted to several sexual encounters, he only admitted to one. Finally in so many of your posts you say that people sent "her" (meaning Tammy Faye) money. I thought people sent PTL love gifts not Tammy Faye and Jim Bakker. Once our gift leaves our hands and it is given in good faith then we have done our part. Tammy Faye touched millions of people's lives, mine included. I am proud to call her a friend and I will miss her. You have a right to think what you want but even if you are right in your thinking about Jim, that has nothing to do with Tammy.
Commented by Larry Ferguson On 08/23/2007
Commented by buzzie On 08/23/2007
Ok..the comment above...all I can see is buzzie bless you heart. Any more sinless folks that have some stones to cast? Ooops that's the part of the bible we forget about when we are busy worrying about who has on some makeup and who doesn't. I mean it's not we don't have important things to do in this world like lead people to christ, make up patrol always comes first!
Commented by Larry Ferguson On 08/23/2007
Ok, now to pick on myself and my comment...believe it or not I did get through 1st grade. However you can't prove that by my post above. It should say:
Ok..the comment above...all I can say is buzzie bless your heart. Any more sinless folks that have some stones to cast? Ooops that's the part of the bible we forget about when we are to busy worrying about who has on some makeup and who doesn't. I mean it's not like we don't have important things to do in this world like lead people to christ, makeup patrol always comes first!
Commented by Larry Ferguson On 08/23/2007
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