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15 Aug 2007
Tammy Faye Messner - The World Lost a Friend
![]() When I was asked to write this, I wasn't exactly sure how I wanted to go about it. From a writer's standpoint, you always try to find a certain slant to write from. The only way I felt I could adequately write this was to just write my thoughts and let you, the reader, read them and make your own decisions as to how you felt about Tammy Faye Messner. In my years of observing Tammy Faye, I've come to truly respect and admire her. Tammy Faye was a friend to all she came in contact with. Even to those who brought her strife, she was their friend. When you look beyond all the glamour and glitz of PTL (and all of its pitfalls) and you look beyond the make-up and giddiness, I think you found someone who was warm and caring. Love her or hate her, she demanded respect.and she deserved it. Reader Comments(from Tennessean)Thousands upon thousands of christians sent her money. I have a problem with this statement. When people send money to a ministry, they are presumably sending it to further the Kingdom of Heaven. IF they are sending it to a 'person' as you referred to, then their faith, their hope rests on that individual. That is not wise. Give unto the Lord...and after that, whatever benefit it has or does not is out of the giver's hands. It is out of obedience only that one should give. (from Tennessean)Jim Bakker is back on television these days doing what he does best raising money. The only difference is a new wife, and the name of the facility is Morning Star not Heritage Park. If you can't see past the 'raising of monies' as a necessary part of ministry, then I think that's very sad indeed. What you refuse to acknowledge is that Jim and Tammy Faye were the pioneers of TV evangelical ministry. A ministry that God has called Jim Bakker to continue today. Why in his human self he would want to undertake such abuse from the world is truly astonishing to me. However, I firmly, resolutely, and passionately believe in the 'calling to ministry' on the lives of God's people. When you receive that calling, it's for a lifetime. As for your attack on John Lanier... Why would you want to do that? Are you even acquainted with his ministry at all? How could you be and still be so devoid of anything positive at all?... The blog you refer to is a whole other matter entirely... Let's not even 'go there'.
Commented by LKennedy On 08/21/2007
Guys, I have moved on... The Bakkers do not in any way deserve this much attention.
Commented by On 08/21/2007
Jesus forgave the thief on the cross. Why do we as Christians feel we are qualified to categorize sin as to what is forgivable and what is not? I don't know of any distinction in the Bible over which sins are forgivable and which are not forgivable.
As hard as it is for some people to realize, God's forgiveness extends to ALL sins which would include a serial killer. By judging whether or not someone has been forgiven or judging who is a legitimate Christian, we are committing a sin as much as the one that we are criticizing. We give as unto God. We will be blessed according to the motives in our heart for giving regardless of what happens to it.
Commented by On 08/21/2007
I would never called Tammy or Jim a conspirator. There is not a doubt in my mind that they did not set out to conspire to abuse the funds or the people who gave the funds. They are people just like all of us here who have weaknesses that if caught up in the wrong situation can cause us to fall. Thank God for His grace. I have needed it many times. We cannot sit in judgment over someone else's failings without knowing that we ourselves are capable of the same thing. The fruits of Tammy's life have shown that she did accept God's grace.
John, I'm with you, I'll go on Jim Bakker's show if he asks me to. I will sing anywhere that I can get the Gospel message out. Like it or not millions of people are still watching Jim Bakker on TV. Jim has confessed many many times in front of TV cameras. I have an obligation to accept him back as a brother, unless he proves otherwise. I would sing Gospel music at a bar, if it let me get the message of the Gospel out to those who need to hear it. How do we stand in front of God and some lost sinner and say that we didn't share the message we have because of the company we had to keep. We've had conversations on the boards before about groups who wouldn't take a booking because they found out that booze would be served there. What better place to sing the Gospel than to those who really need it. I don't have to participate in the booze to sing about Jesus. So, if you can get me on the Jim Bakker Show let me know, I'll be there.
Commented by On 08/21/2007
It is no wonder that we are not winning the world to Christ when we are so hard on our own Christian community. Only God can judge. How can we can we sit in judgement on our fellow man unless we are God?
Commented by On 08/21/2007
The Bakkers are one of God's creations and they deserve as much attention as anyone else.
Commented by On 08/21/2007
I was a personal friend of Tammy Faye's and the family...they were Godly people that got swept up in some bad decisions and mistakes...like WE ALL have done.
God sometimes has to come get us and get us back on track, something I am sure we can all testify about! The reality show that you call SICK, was in fact many ways SICK, but Tam got on that show and showed how a true follower of Christ should be! I loved Tam, and I will miss her, but I know I will see her in Heaven!
Commented by On 08/22/2007
I wish to complement John Lanier on his posts. He was "right on". Tammy ministered to more through her cancer that many do who are in good health and only criticize.
Commented by On 08/23/2007
Tennessean,
Please don't take this personal but you have a lot of errors in your statements. For one, Tammy didn't serve jail time because she didn't commit a crime. Next, if she were to commit a crime it is not up to us to judge her it is up to God. I personally feel she did nothing wrong. Later a court of law felt the same away about Jim and he was released from prison and exonerated. However, lets say he was guilty....she isn't accountable for his choices any more than you are for your spouses. As far as the reality show, SICK????? She witnessed to millions of people, she refused to take part in sinful activities during the show and she acted as a Christian should act, there again, still you can't hold her accountable for anything anyone else on the show did. And again, God is the only one we are acountable to if our actions don't hurt or infringe on anyone else. I really think you just have a bias against Tammy. You have the right to not like her but the statements you made weren't the Christian way to look at things. You mentioned all the things you thought she did that were bad....and everyone loves to talk about the scandal of PTL but we as Christians should also talk about the millions of people that got saved through PTL or even Tammy's personal services. I was in one service where 10 people were saved. Tammy was a strong woman of God and faith. If Tammy read what you wrote, I'm sure it would hurt her feelings but when she saw you, she would just give you a big ole hug and never hold it against you. That is the best example of Christ's love.
Commented by Larry Ferguson On 08/23/2007
In response to Tennessean. I know that God has forgotten the sins of the past when one repents. However I also know that the only one who continues to bring up the sins of the past will spend an eternity in the lake of fire. He is the accuser of God's children. By her spirit I know that Tammy loved God and ministered to countless numbers of His love for them. She will be missed.
Commented by On 08/23/2007
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