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What’s the point?

It is, with a wee dram of reservation, that I write to you my first article for this website. I am not without subject to write, I am simply leery of anyone getting the point. I have been following this site, and few others, for some time now with curiosity about the opinions that are out there about our industry. I have been quite shocked at the intellectually bankrupt people who seem to be proclaimed as “Guardians of the Gate of Truth”. Most of the articles I have read have been more like advertisements from politicians running for office. The one resounding subject seems to be that the SGM industry is in trouble and how do we fix it. Well let’s delve into that a bit. First of all I want to let you know that my opinions on this matter are just that “opinions”. Much has been said about NQC, Singing News, Charts, Pros V Amateurs, and the direction of our industry in general. I attend the NQC board meetings and work directly with Singing news and their charts. I can say, FOR SURE, it is a mess! So many people look at these simple 1-2 fixes like separating pros and amateurs or changing the overall quality of our recordings. Or perhaps booting out the entertainers and going all out for ministry only. I can assure you, NO ONE in the box seats of the game CARE even a little bit about any of that. The people in this industry who hold the reigns simply don’t care! The Government that is SGM has become a Communist Regime.

OH MY! HOW CAN HE SAY THAT!?! Because it is true! There are a few in number who own all we try to become a part of and if you disagree with the way things are ran You Are Shown the Door! This industry is No Longer about quality or Christian ideology, it is about MONEY! If you can bring Money to the table you can get in any door you want to get in! As far as I am concerned more than half of the artists holding top charting positions and Time on the NQC stage, simply don’t deserve it. There are groups out there that aren’t much better than a decent church group and have been on the cover of magazines. This is the true decline of our Empire. We are over here arguing the finer points of pitch and stage presence, and NOBODY CARES! So what if the McKameys aren’t sonically pure? They sold 500,000 copies of “God on the Mountain” in less time than it took Ernie Hasse and the gang to sell “Get Away Jordan” the same amount! I am not a McKamey fan but they have something called Anointing! They no doubt also have a real relationship with GOD! Ernie isn’t anything more than any other Pitchy tenor, if you were to strip away the lights and dance moves! And let’s not forget the NOD of approval from the mighty GAITHER!

Let’s face it, nobody cares either way! Do we need entertainment (EHSS)? Sure we do. Do we need anointed sincere singing ( Mkmy )? You bet we do. Does any of that have anything to do with the decline of SGM? NO WAY! The arrogance of those of you out there who think you have a quick fix idea is staggering. I am so sick of the after concert, Waffle House, SGM repair sessions! Everybody has “A PLAN”. Some say, let’s educate the people coming up and keep them from getting ripped off. Noble gesture, as long as you’re not suggesting that the umbrella of protection only opens in your studio or record company. Those same people suggest that you need a REAL RECORD DEAL! WHAT? Does everyone honestly suggest that Daywind, Crossroads, Springhill etc.. Won’t RIP YOU OFF! HAHA! Of course they will. They will take your money, stick you on some farm label, and you get to go out and brag about your record deal. (That’s another article) the point is, NOBODY CARES! It doesn’t make any difference either way. Fact: nobody ever bought a CD because of the label. Fact: nobody ever bought a CD because of who the producer is. Fact: nobody cares who played guitar on the CD or what city it was recorded in! This stuff is irrelevant! What is relevant is, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? That’ right, I said YOU! You are the POWER and the INDUSTRY. Without all the YOUS out there we would have NO NQC, NO SINGING NEWS, NO CHARTS, No industry at all! We the people have the power to change the course of SGM! We have the power to choose if we are going to continue to accept things the way they are or change them. Some of you like it the way it is. Great, do nothing. Some of you want change for our industry, well CHANGE IT THEN! HOW? Well, that is to come (IN MY OPINION) in future articles. I look forward to addressing these, and many other issues. I look forward to your comments and opinions that will follow. This will be my platform in future articles and I am looking forward to it. I eagerly await to see if anyone will get “ The Point”.

God Bless,

Shane Roark
http://www.chapelvalleystudio.com

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  1.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/02/2008

    Wow.....so much to comment on.

    You may want to get your facts straight before you spout off your fixes for SG.

    Ernie has not sold 500,000 of anything. The gold record was for video....hence 50,000 copies or more.

    Next time try and hide your bitterness a little better.... More people might listen.

  2.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/02/2008

    Observant Boy,

    Thank you soo much for your correction. That was in fact a mis on my part. However that makes my point even more illuminating. The fact that so much HOOPLA was centered around Ernie and his GOLD record for 50,000 copies, and the suggestions that people have made over the years that The McKameys have no place in SGM proves my point. The public should decide these things.

    And please do not misunderstand my BOLDNESS for BITTERNESS. I am doing VERY WELL in this industry.
    In fact my business is SOARING! My issues with SGM is not the Music, But the political binds that have been placed on so many of our people. I love SGM, but I do NOT love what it has come to mean.

    And in the future please do not assume that my opinions are in any way a FIX. It is my intention to share just a simple OPINION. Thats all. My opinions about what is wrong with our industry are not intended to even be taken as suggestions, we have enough of that now. I will not HIDE my opinion for anyone. But I do not suggest that I have the answer. Just an opinion. And as I will refer in coming articles, will anyone get the point? Or will they simply argue the facts and ignore the truth. That truth is, WE HAVE SERIOUS ISSUES WITH SGM.

    There is another BLOG site which simply argues the facts and ignores the points. I will not mention them here or ever. It is full of idiots who think they are doing some good by fighting over who is wrong or right. WHO CARES? What we need is a new, fresh angle. A breath of NEW life, if you will. We need NOT tarry on the shackles that have been placed by this arrogant and misled path we are on. Lets press on beyond what we have now. And perhaps we can rekindle SGM to something GLORIOUS and well respected, NOT the joke it has become to so many.

    SHANE ROARK
    P.S. Do really think anyone out there WANTS to listen? If so, it will shock me.

  3.    Keith Prater ~ 11/03/2008

    Is any one's success in SG music dependent on the so-called "Communist Regime"? If so, it is because the artists in the industry are so stary-eyed toward these people that it impairs their judgment. Everyone thinks it's so great to be on a label or be charted, but those things are just glitz and glamour and are of little or no value. Why not just become great singers and musicians, make music, maybe put it on a CD and find people who will listen to you. Enough of the music business!

    If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit

    - Galatians 5:25

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  4.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/03/2008

    Keith,

    AWESOME!! I never thought anyone would show up so early with a BRAIN!
    Thats it exactly! Regardless of what we try to accomplish, it MUST start with a call to something higher and better than charts or labels!
    It would be great if everyone got on the same page with the same purpose ( Which I think Keith is suggesting here ) but in the meantime, lets try to repair what we have and use it to be GREAT for GOD!
    Keith my friend, YOU GOT THE POINT!!

  5.    CanaMoly ~ 11/03/2008

    Hey Keith great start, looking forward to future articles.

  6.    CanaMoly ~ 11/03/2008

    OOPS I meant Steve not Keith had a little brain slip there LOL

  7.    CanaMoly ~ 11/03/2008

    OK Shane I am really embarrassed now this multitasking is getting too much for us old guys LOL again

  8.    bludline ~ 11/04/2008

    SGM has ALWAYS been about the music. It is now, and it will be as long as there is SGM. What the NQC or the SGMA, or whoever.... does or doesn't do won't change that. I feel that the groups (and soloists) that are out there every weekend are keeping SG alive as much or more than the pros are, just because there are more of us and we can come for less $ and all that, so more people see us.

  9.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/04/2008

    I agree with shane on most all parts. He is 100% correct on the politics. I have been singing over 30 years with 10 of those with the Kingsmen yet I cannot break the political barricade. So my inclination is to continue to do what is right. Have a good group that doesn't mind entertaining along with ministering and letting the people pick and choose what they want. I guess the bottom line is if you do not want to help someone than just do not hinder their efforts.

  10.    bludline ~ 11/04/2008

    Ed, that is JUST what I was trying to say! lol

  11.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/04/2008

    Ed,
    First of all, glad to hear you are still out there! You of ALL people should and DO get it!
    Someone with your experience and background should automatically be on the INSIDE. But politics and finance keeps you out. I agree with your point, If you are out there with NO intention to help better things for us all, then don't be a stumbling block for others! There are a lot of people with a lot to offer, if we were all working together for a common GOOD, we could all enjoy the benifits from that action.

    SHANE ROARK

  12.    Rod Burton ~ 11/05/2008

    Shane,

    Outstanding! The issues are not the music nor the message, they're centered around the business. While the ministry should be the number one focus, it's become more about the biz...and that's where we go off track. When your level of success is identified by whether you have an 'artist' or an 'exhibitor' badge to wear, the point is being missed.

    The message is still worthy of the spotlight...and there are no quick fixes.

    Blessings,


    Rod Burton

    http://www.rodburtonmusic.com
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    http://www.bransonGMC.com

  13.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/06/2008

    Yep... He really said all that.

  14.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/06/2008

    I think we sometimes forget the need for great songs. We need more songwriters in the "industry", if you want to call it that, who take the craft seriously and more singers/groups who settle for nothing less than superb songwriting. While there are a few great songs coming out in SG, overall I feel that there is a dearth of great material.

    Secondly, we need singers who (a) love Jesus and (b) know how to sing--and sing well.

    My point is that if you get all three right...that is you have great songs, you love the Lord and you can sing really well, the political walls tend to break down by themselves a little bit. People will take notice of you and if it's God's will, He will begin to put you into places you never dreamed about.

    The one caveat there is that it's not always God's will to put you on a national platform. Many singers/groups never come to the realization that God sometimes has a place for you on a local or regional scene, and in those cases it's never His intention to put you in the Top 10 on the Singing News charts. Hard to swallow, yes. But if it's His will, it's always for the best.

  15.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/06/2008

    I would add one other requirement to success in SG, and that is for a singer or group to settle for nothing but their very best in the recording studio. So many groups--big name groups, even--allow producers/engineers to run them through their vocal recording sessions in a hurry. The fact is that most groups CANNOT do as well as they should with only two days of vocals.

    Try recording vocals for four or five days on your next project, tweaking and tweaking and fixing every little thing you can think of.

    Then approach the mixing segment of the process as seriously as you have any other part of it. Demand a great mix from whomever is mixing the record. You will come out with a much better project.

  16.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/07/2008

    I've noticed something intriguing here as I have read this article and the comments to follow. Not once have I seen anyone mention the need to have God first. I've read "Christian Ideology," and "ministry" but these could mean any number of things. Let's not beat around the bush here. The problem with SGM today is that too many have lost focus on what they are singing about. Once a person has lost focus of God, I believe God's blessing has also left. However just because someone acheives great "success" doesn't mean they are in God's will. The world offers success and happiness, but only for a season.

    SGM as a whole needs to refocus and realize its not what you or I can do, but what God can do. It's not about us! It's not about Gaither. It's not about The Hoppers. It's not about EHSS. And believe it or not it's not about NQC or SGM as a whole. It's about what Christ did for us. When we start to worry more about vain things than seeing souls saved, then we are way out of focus.

    Sure I would love to see every group acheive the success of Bill Gaither. But if you are willing to do anything short of selling your soul to the devil to get to that point, what have you gained? The end doesn't justify the means.

    SGM has turned away from the founding principles which made it great! There are exceptions of course, and I believe those exceptions are seeing true success.

    My main point is this...we, and when I say we I mean me too, we all need revival. Revival in our churches, Revival in our schools, Revival in our homes, and Revival in our hearts! Oh how I long to see Revival in our country!

    "The same faith that saved us that day, should be lived by us every day!"

  17.    Keith Prater ~ 11/07/2008

    Certainly we need revival, but "seeing souls saved" isn't the only reason God created music in the world, just as He did not create the Great Smoky Mountains for the sole reason of seeing souls saved. On the other hand, God did not create music to be the money making object of the music industry, just as He did not create the Great Smoky Mountains for the profit of the tourist industry. Once we can see music as neither a tool for winning the lost nor a way to make money, then we will truly understand God's heart for music and why He created it in the world. (And this is a revelation to me, too!)

    If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit

    - Galatians 5:25

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  18.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/11/2008

    Music is not a tool for winning the lost? Did I miss something here?

  19.    Keith Prater ~ 11/11/2008

    Yes you did. I'm talking about how we view music in our minds. Long before men tried to win souls with it, and long before men tried to make money with it, music was given to us by God as beauty...just like the Smoky Mountains or the Grand Canyon. All the troubles we are having with music, whether it is Southern Gospel or any other style, stem from us failing to appreciate music in the right way -- the way God created it.

    If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit

    - Galatians 5:25

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  20.    Shane Watson ~ 11/12/2008

    But wouldn't that sort of be like saying that we shouldn't preach because it takes away from the beauty of speaking? Music, as you correctly stated, in and of itself is a beautiful thing. It was created to be enjoyed. But, SGM is more than just a Beethoven Symphony. Not only is it beautiful because it is expressive, it's beautiful because it has a message. Just like preaching, it's more than just a speech to be prepared. It's more than just getting up and talking - there's a message. That's why SGM or Christian Music in it's entirety should spend MORE effort focusing on not only entertainment value, but how to reach more and more souls. I realize that a SGM or CM concert shouldn't be based off of preaching musically from song number one in a lineup. However, we shouldn't be on the other extreme either - being too entertainment based. We have a serious message to tell/sing about, but we've got to start having a JOY about being a Christian. When people see us singing or playing this music, they should see something glowing from within us. The anointing we have should show, and people everywhere should want to have what we have and what they can SEE in us...JESUS. Showing the message of how GREAT HE is, THAT is what God intended Christian Music to be about...

  21.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/12/2008

    Shane,

    What a great statement! You almost summed up my NEXT article, BALANCE! We cannot have one without the other. Without entertainment nobody is gonna listen anyway, and without the anointing whats the point of siniging the Gospel? If you desire to reach the masses for Christ, you better be able to give them at least as much as the world can. We are not competing with each other here, but we are competing with the World and the entertainment that they can offer. The idea here is to get people to listen just long enough to be moved by the Holy Spirit and convicted or to begin a thought process. If we ( as singers ) go out there and just cram it down their throats nobody but Church folks are gonna pay attention.
    What about everyone else?

  22.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/12/2008

    My daughter and have attended NQC for the last 8 years and each year has been wonderful, we have stayed the entire week and yes there is a lot of politics and other things, but all in all isn't it that way in everything. yes we feel it should not be that way, but it is what it is and everyone and every group is not that way. I have met so many great people of God there, one group in particular called The Gabbards they are there to help spread the gospel and get the message out, they have been going there for years and have never sang on center stage, it's not all about that it's about getting to know the fans of SGM and letting the fans get to know the groups and to have a great time of fellowship. We go there because we love SGM, and it's great to talk to other people who love SGM. For my daughter who is going to be 20 and was around 12 when we started going it's great, she has made a lot of friends there and continues to love it no matter what the politics of the whole thing is. It does not matter if you are going for the right reasons. It's your choice, you don't have to go if you don't agree with it. Why does it seem to bother everyone so much. These singers are people like you and me and we can never put someone up on a pedestal they will always fall off of it eventually because no one will ever live up to what we think they should be. It's sad but true. All of us are nothing but sinners saved by God's Amazing Grace. If people are not doing what they are suppose to do then they have to answer to God. We just need to pray for them and help lead them in the right direction by living the life in front of them. enough said.

  23.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/12/2008

    I love FANS. Vicky here is a FAN. I hope everyone gets what Vicky is saying here. See how simple she sees things. Vicky represents the majority, a simple innocent view from the outside, a TRUE lover of our music. We could all take a lesson from VICKY. Its about folks coming together and enjoying one anothers company and singing the songs we love to sing. TRUE, SO TRUE.
    However, Vicky doesn't have to rake the leaves on the other side of the fence. She doesn't have to deal with the retoric of politics. She and her daughter get to show up and hang out and have fun. We don't get to do that anymore. I wish it were as simple as people like Vicky see it. Her statement is "it is what it is" so just let it be.
    One writer said, " one sure way to allow evil to prevail is for GOOD men to do NOTHING ". I sorry VICKY, I know things you don't know, I see things you don't see, I hear things you don't hear. I am afraid I cannot sit by and allow it to be what it is. I pray for reform in our industry and maybe, ONE DAY we can all enjoy your view. GOD BLESS you and I appreciate your love for our music. Thanks for putting up with us.

  24.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/12/2008

    BY THE WAY, I understand that Vicky was merely pointing out NQC. Thats 6 days out of the WHOLE year. My statement was not about NQC. But rather the rest of the year we ALL work and deal with. Thought I better clear that up before we atrt BASHING one week. NQC does not make or break careers. Sorry for those of you who hope it will. Thats not what it is there for.

  25.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/18/2008

    "There are a few in number who own all we try to become a part of and if you disagree with the way things are ran You Are Shown the Door!"
    The correct verb usage is: the way things are run. I stopped reading at that line.

  26.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/18/2008

    WOW! Jean missed the point!!
    My apologies Jean, I did not realize I was writing an article for magazine editors and english majors. Perhaps you would like to edit my next one. That way you would have a reason to read it and actually get THE POINT!

  27.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/18/2008

    Actually, I am not a magazine editor or an English major. My point is that anyone who is writing an article, but doesn't take the time to check his grammar is sloppy.

    I WAS interested in your opinion, but when I saw that you didn't bother to do a spelling and grammar check, I decided to not bother reading any further.
    I'm saying, your lack of caring about HOW you write is an example of what is actually wrong in SGM. Sloppiness and lack of professionalism. Below par product being sold.
    It is evident that anger is the engine of your machine. That's not the same as wisdom.
    It seems from the blurb announcing your article that you are annoyed at the control a few people hold on it.

    It's true that SGM is a business run by businessmen. So what? Do they owe you an apology for having a monopoly on something? I think not.

    Finally , it's highly unusual for someone to write the article and then spend time rebutting every one who takes the time to make a point or state their own observations. You had your chance to spout. Give the readers a chance to answer. You must have a great deal of spare time.

  28.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/18/2008

    Jean,
    Did I mention in my article anywhere that I was NOT sloppy. Did I say that I payed any attention to writer protocol. I never even said that I had any answers. OPINION is the word I used. GEEEZZ!!
    I AM NOT A WRITER!! I was asked to put an article on this site! THATS IT!! And I did. I was simply curious to see if any one could stay on point! Obviously some CAN'T!

    I never said I cared what anyone thought of me or this article. I simply stated ( If you had read on ) that I was interested in your comments. I am INDEED interested in yours, I find your opinion interesting to say the least.

    Does any one owe me an apology? NOOO!! But I am a STOCKHOLDER and a BIG one at that.So I am going to voice my opinion!

    Its not about anger, but it is frustration! If I dropped of the map entirely I would be JUST fine, I am in need of NOTHING. I am concerned about others being shafted and cleaned out by the system. And if you want to defend the people who do that you are entitled to do so.I WILL NOT!!

    I am NOT politically correct! DONT WANT TO BE!
    I never said I was. As far as my bantering back and forth with the readers, I LIKE IT. If you don't, write your own article.

    If you will notice, I use my FULL name in my responses, I do not fear retribution. I actually like it. This is what we need. NO PROTOCOL, NO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, just debate about OUR industry. Expressing what we ALL think. WE do not have to agree, but at least we are talking about the issues.

  29.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/19/2008

    In response to Mr. Prater's comment:

    This is the problem with SGM and many churches today. They don't understand the weight of music as a tool for winning souls. Many, including Mr. Prater, are oblivious as to how music is a tool for winning souls. Just as the gospel is a tool, and preaching is a tool, music too is a tool for winning souls. To not believe that it is, is beyond me to understand. You mention that music was "given to us by God as beauty." Yes I do believe it is beautiful, but you're dead wrong. Music was given to us for worship. When you show me in the Bible where music was given as beauty then I'll agree. Just as this beautiful world created for us, it wasn't created solely for our enjoyment or entertainment. Read Ps. 19. It was made so that it would be undeniably God's handiwork. So that any person could look up into the Heavens and see God's power and therefore worship Him.

    I agree with your last statement about the problem with today's music being with us not appreciating music God's way, however your logic as to why God created it is off.

  30.    Keith Prater ~ 11/20/2008

    I apologize that my hyperbole has diverted us from the point of this article and discussion. While I do stand by those extraneous statements, they weren't the point I was trying to make. What I was trying to say was that if any of us has received from God a gift or talent for music, that gift or talent exists independently of the powers that be in the music industry, whether we're talking about Southern Gospel or the music industry at large. Those talents and gifts also exist independently of whatever label we try to put on them, whether they be labels of style (Southern Gospel, Praise and Worship, Country, classical, etc.) or labels of purpose (ministry, entertainment, business, etc.). If the gift is from God, it transcends all these things. And if we are fretting over how the powers that be have hinder us, we have removed our focus from the one who gave the gift and have become carnal in our thinking (see 1 Corinthians 3).

    If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit

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  31.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/20/2008

    WELL PUT!!!

  32.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/20/2008

    Well put? In context of Mr. Prater's previous posts "well put" is not a very good description. What exactly are you considering a hyperbole? The part about music not being a tool for winning souls? Or the part about music being given to us as beauty? Does this mean that we are supposed to decipher your posts as Joseph did Pharaoh's dreams?

    I don't think our discussion is at all irrelevant to the original article because we are talking about the problem with SGM today.

    Pardon me for adding something that is irrelevant, but on your website Mr. Prater, you mention that...

    "When the price has been paid (and it has through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ)"

    The price was paid by the shedding of blood. Jesus' blood. "Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sins."

  33.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 11/20/2008

    wow! I think that is the first time I have been accused of being vague.
    Well put means, he finally made a REAL point. I felt he defended his statements with some clarity. That doesnt mean I agree. The fact is, I think it has become a weird debate between you 2. You both have good points. but it is a matter of opinion either way. I do feel that music has been set on the back burner by many as JUST something to ENJOY. Of course it is a tool for ministering, it is also a beautiful creation of GOD. Lets shake hands on this one and move on.

  34.    David Mann ~ 11/25/2008

    Wow. I was told about this article and had to check it out. My recent ramblings on my own blog are right in line with this. Difference is, Shane has a bigger platform.

    Great article. Looking forward to more in the future.

  35.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 12/01/2008

    Chris Becker's avatar The reason that SG is basically a "pay to play" industry is simple. There's no money to be made.
    Nobody's getting rich in this genre. I doubt that Bill Gaither is a wealthy as we all imagine him to be.

    Chris J. Becker
    Cedar Rapids, IA



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